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IV Guillaume Rose v. Richard Handford

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  21 December 2009

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This suit, concerning the estate formerly enjoyed by Simon Rose and his wife, turned on the question whether Rose, who died at Meaux during the siege by Henry V (October 1421–May 1422), came to be at Meaux as a prisoner of the Dauphinist defenders or as an active supporter of the Dauphinist cause. Guillaume Rose maintained the first, Richard Handford the second, explanation. The question was material, for it is almost certain that on the fall of Meaux Simon suffered posthumous confiscation; but if it could be proved that he died a prisoner of war, his forfeiture might be reversed to the advantage of his four grandchildren, whose legal guardian Guillaume Rose was. There is no doubt that Simon's son, Michel, taken at Meaux and sent as a prisoner to England, forfeited everything.

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1 Guillaume Rose was an avocat in the Parlement. In 1418 he served as ‘lieutenant du maistre des eaues et forests’, work which he continued to carry out in the following year with orders to see that wood in and around Paris was sold at a reasonable price (Fauquembergue, i, 207–8, 217–18, 221–3, 273, 320Google Scholar). In September 1418 he refused to act as one of the commissioners appointed to deal with the excesses committed by the Armagnacs and their supporters, on the grounds that such a body would diminish the authority of the Parlement (ibid., i, 164). In February 1420 he was among the envoys sent to Henry V to obtain a renewal of the truce (ibid., i, 349).

2 For Richard Handford, see appendix II.

3 Easter, in 1425, was on 8 April.

4 Jean L'Espine, formerly notaire du roi, was greffier criminel of the Parlement.

5 Simon Rose, probably a close relative (lignagier) of the appellant, died in 1422.

6 Pierrette Doignon, his wife, died in 1412.

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7 Michel Rose, son of Simon, killed at Verneuil in August 1424.

8 Jaquin Rose, son of Simon Rose and Pierrette Doignon, killed at Agincourt in October 1415.

9 Meaux, Seine-et-Marne. Besieged by Henry V for many months, terms for the capitulation of the Marché, the stronghold, were agreed on 2 May 1422 (Foedera, x, 212 seq). On 14 May 1422 Charles VI, ‘par l'advis de nostre dit fils’ (Henry V) granted letters of remission to the inhabitants of Meaux reserving to them ‘leurs biens meubles qu'ils orit de present et aussi leurs maisons, terres, rentes, possessions et heritaiges quelsconques estans en nostre royaulme et seigneuriequi n'auroient esté donnés (A.N., JJ 172, no 98). From this act it appears that goods and property of the former rebels may have been granted away prior to the pardon. On 25 October 1425 other letters of remission were issued to a number of defenders and inhabitants of the Marché (ibid, JJ 173, no 405), but no names of persons referred to in this lawsuit occur among the recipients.

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10 Jean Choart was bailli of Meaux 1421 27 (Gallia Regia, iv, 96).Google Scholar

11 John Handford (for whom see appendix II) was captain of Bois-de-Vincennes.

12 Verneuil-sur-Avre, Eure, arr. Evreux. The battle, won by the English, was fought (in 17 August 1424.

13 Saint-James-de-Beuvron, Manche, arr. Avranches. The defeat of a Breton force took place on 6 March 1426.

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14 Katherine Rose married Syvador de Girême.

15 Bois-Garnier, probably that which is close to Meaux, on the western side (Seine-et-Marne, arr. Meaux, c. Meaux-Sud, com. Trilbardou).

16 Rutel, Seine-et-Marne, arr. Meaux, c. Meaux-Nord, com. Chauconin-Neufmontiers and c. Meaux-Sud, com. Villenoy. Henry V stayed there at the beginning of the siege of Meaux in October 1421 (Wylie, J. H. and Waugh, W. T., The reign of Henry the Fifth (3 vols., Cambridge, 19141929), iii, p. 339Google Scholar and n. 5; Ferguson, , English diplomacy, p. 230).Google Scholar

17 Perhaps it was a relative, Philippe Malet, who was among those who surrendered the Marché at Meaux to Henry V on 2 May 1422 (Foedera, x, 214).Google Scholar

18 One of the leaders of the defence of Meaux, notorious for his cruelty. On his activities and execution, see Bourgeois, pp. 170–1.Google Scholar

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19 The year 1421 witnessed the death of many from a disease which struck women and young people in particular (Bourgeois, p. 154).Google Scholar

20 Jean d'Aunay was one of the captains of Meaux who surrendered to the English.

21 See de Richebourg, C. A. Bourdot, Nouveau coutumier général (8 vols., Paris, 1724), III, i, 215, 245–6.Google Scholar

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22 i.e., the Chambre des Comptes.

23 Jeannette Rose was a daughter of Simon Rose but not of Pierrette Doignon.

24 A court, subordinate to the conseil, receiving and sometimes judging appeals.

25 Syvador de Girême, doubtless related to the bishop of Meaux of that name, had been one of those to surrender the Marché to Henry V. He had married Katherine, daughter of Simon Rose and Pierrette Doignon.

26 Perhaps a reference to the terms of surrender and the letters of remission referred to in n. 9, above.

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27 On the rights of the eldest son in Champagne and Brie, and more particularly to his claim to the house and garden, see Nouveau coutumier général, III, i, 209–10.Google Scholar

28 In the neighbouring bailliage of Melun ‘le douaire, soit coustumier ou prefix, est viager à la femme: de sorte qu'elle morte, il cst éteint’ (ibid., III, i, 451).

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29 Probably Orry-la-Ville, Oise, arr. et c. Senlis.

30 Either Puiseux-en-France, Val d'Oise, arr. Montmorency, c. Luzarches, or Puiseux, Seine-et-Marne, arr. Meaux, c. Lizy-sur-Ourcq.

31 Forfry, Seine-et-Marne, arr. Meaux, c. Dammartin-en-Goële.

32 Either Récz-Fosse-Martin, Oise, arr. Senlis, c. Betz, or La Fosse-Martin, Val d'Oise, arr. Montmorency, com. Villiers-le-Bel.

33 Nantouillet, Seine-et-Marne, arr. Meaux, c. Claye-Souilly.

34 Perhaps Jean de la Porte, conseiller in the Parlement, is intended.

35 Guillaume Le Duc, conseiller in the Parlement, and then third président in February 1432.

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36 Robert Piedefer was conseiller in the Parlement in 1410, président des requêtes between 1418 and 1421, and first président of the Parlement in 1433.