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Nationalism and the catholic church in the 1840s: views of Dublin repealers
Published online by Cambridge University Press: 28 July 2016
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The 1840s, when O’Connell’s Repeal Association and Young Ireland flourished, constitute an important period in the history of the relationship between the catholic church and the Irish national movement. One of the major themes in Young Ireland’s challenge to O’Connell’s leadership of the repeal movement was that under O’Connell the association paid too much attention to religious issues, and was too closely identified with the interests of the catholic church. According to Young Ireland, Irishmen should sink their differences—including religious ones—and join together to discover their real interests, which lay in seeking Irish independence from England.
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27a 7 and 8 Vict., c. 97 (9 Aug. 1844).
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76 There is no shortage of evidence to show that O’Connell was anxious to see protestants join the repeal movement, and that he was not intolerant towards men of different creeds. For instance, see the report of his speech urging protestant working-men to support repeal (F.J., 15 June 1841), and his letter to Captain Sea ver, an ex-orangeman, 14 Apr. 1843 (O’Connell papers, N.L.I., MS 423). Several protestants did join the Repeal Association, before the Young Irelanders joined : John Gray of the F.J., John L. Arabin, man of property, and Edward Clements, barrister, are among the most prominent.
77 See the following articles in the Nation : ‘The Orange anniversaries ’, 29 June 1844; ’Hedging in’, 3 Aug. 1844; ‘Conservative repealers’, 28 Sept. 1844, and ‘United Ireland’, 26 Oct. 1844. This point has also been made by Owen Dudley Edwards in his chapter ‘Ireland ’, in Celtic nationalism (London, 1968), p. 137.