Book contents
- Frontmatter
- Contents
- Preface
- PART I AN ANALYSIS OF THE LYSIS
- 1 203a1–207b7: the cast assembles, and the main conversation is set up
- 2 207b8–210d8 (Socrates and Lysis): do Lysis' parents really love him?
- 3 210e1–213c9: Socrates and Menexenus – how does one get a friend?
- 4 213d1–216b9: Socrates and Lysis again, then Menexenus – poets and cosmologists on what is friend of what (like of like; or opposite of opposite?)
- 5 216c1–221d6: what it is that loves, what it really loves, and why
- 6 221d6–222b2: the main argument reaches its conclusion
- 7 222b3–e7: some further questions from Socrates about the argument, leading to (apparent) impasse
- 8 223a1–b8: the dialogue ends – people will say that Socrates and the boys think they are friends, but that they haven't been able to discover what ‘the friend’ is
- 9 203a1–207b7 revisited
- PART II THE THEORY OF THE LYSIS
- Epilogue
- Translation of the Lysis
- Bibliography
- Index of names
- Index of subjects
1 - 203a1–207b7: the cast assembles, and the main conversation is set up
Published online by Cambridge University Press: 22 September 2009
- Frontmatter
- Contents
- Preface
- PART I AN ANALYSIS OF THE LYSIS
- 1 203a1–207b7: the cast assembles, and the main conversation is set up
- 2 207b8–210d8 (Socrates and Lysis): do Lysis' parents really love him?
- 3 210e1–213c9: Socrates and Menexenus – how does one get a friend?
- 4 213d1–216b9: Socrates and Lysis again, then Menexenus – poets and cosmologists on what is friend of what (like of like; or opposite of opposite?)
- 5 216c1–221d6: what it is that loves, what it really loves, and why
- 6 221d6–222b2: the main argument reaches its conclusion
- 7 222b3–e7: some further questions from Socrates about the argument, leading to (apparent) impasse
- 8 223a1–b8: the dialogue ends – people will say that Socrates and the boys think they are friends, but that they haven't been able to discover what ‘the friend’ is
- 9 203a1–207b7 revisited
- PART II THE THEORY OF THE LYSIS
- Epilogue
- Translation of the Lysis
- Bibliography
- Index of names
- Index of subjects
Summary
We begin with a largely uninterrupted translation of the opening few pages of the Lysis, which serve to introduce and set the scene for the main argument. (For subsequent sections of the dialogue, our method will have some resemblance to a running commentary.) We shall provide, in footnotes to the translation, some preliminary comments on details of this first section of the dialogue, but for the most part we shall delay discussion of major points until after our analysis of the argument of the rest of the Lysis (see chapter 9). We begin with the expectation, though the proof of the pudding will be in the eating, that the design of the opening scene will have at least something to do with the concerns of that argument.
203a1 I was on my way from the Academy straight to the Lyceum along the road that runs outside the wall, under the wall itself; but when I'd got to the small gate where the spring of Panops is, there I chanced on Hippothales son of Hieronymus and Ctesippus of the Paeania deme and other young lads (neaniskois) 203a5 with them, all standing in a group. And when Hippothales caught sight of me coming towards them, he said ‘Socrates! Where is it you're on your way to, and 203b1 where from?’
‘From the Academy,’ I said; ‘I'm on my way straight to the Lyceum.’
‘Come straight here to us,’ he said. ‘Won't you come over? It really will be worth your while.’ […]
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- Plato's Lysis , pp. 3 - 11Publisher: Cambridge University PressPrint publication year: 2005