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VI Caries Carbonnel v. Henry Tilleman
Published online by Cambridge University Press: 21 December 2009
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Caries Carbonnel claimed to have been appointed verderer of the forest of Valognes by Henry V as regent of France, and to have been confirmed in that office by Henry VI. More recently he had served the English in their wars, and had been knighted at Verneuil. But Henry Tilleman, an English esquire, had seized possession of the office, only to be taken by Carbonnel, in June 1425, before the ‘Requêtes de l'Hôtel du Roi’ who, however, had found in Tilleman's favour. The suit thus came before the Parlement on appeal.
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- Camden Fourth Series , Volume 26: English Suits Before the Parlement of Paris 1420–1436 , July 1982 , pp. 103 - 108
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- Copyright © Royal Historical Society 1982
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page 103 note a followed by ges, struck out
1 Caries Carbonnel was a member of a well-known family from the Cotentin, in western Normandy, who was rewarded by Henry V (Bréquigny, , Rôles normands, nos237, 238).Google Scholar
2 For Henry Tilleman, see appendix II.
3 Henry V.
4 Carbonnel's appointment as verderer of Valognes by Henry V was dated 7 May 1418 (D. K. R., xli, 684Google Scholar; Bréquigny, , Rôles normands, no134Google Scholar), and was made ‘quamdiu nobis placuerit…’
page 104 note a a interlined
5 The battle of Verncuil was fought on i 7 August 1424.
6 Jcan Guerin was a procureur in the Parlement, 1417 36.
7 It is presumably the expedition of the Black Prince to Spain in 1367 which is being referred to here. If so, we may reasonably assume that Tilleman was by now at least seventy years old. The ‘Bourgeois’ of Paris (Bourgeois, p. 181Google Scholar) recorded, under the year 1422, that ‘aucuns anciens’ claimed that they had seen the coronation of Charles V in 1364.
8 Some grants were made ‘during pleasure’ (‘le don qu'il en a ne lui a esté fait que a nostre voulonté’ (Dring v. Dynadam [no XIV], p. 172)), or for the duration of the life of the grantor, especially if the grantor exercised any form of commission which expired with him, as did that of the earl of Salisbury (see A.N., JJ 174, no 26).
9 The period referred to here was that between 31 August 1422 (death of Henry V) and 21 October 1422 (death of Charles VI).
10 Carbonnel in fact received the wages of his office at Easter 1423 (B.N., Pieces Originales 594, Carbonnel, no 129). His son and heir, Jean, was sergent à gage au buisson de Montbourg by 1429, an office which he still held in 1440 (ibid., nos 23, 24; n.a.lat., 2502, no 170).
page 105 note a In the margin
page 105 note b In the margin
11 It is being argued here that Henry VI was duke of Normandy during the seven weeks between the death of his father and grandfather, and could thus dispose of offices within the duchy.
12 Henry VI became king of France, by the treaty of Troyes, on his grandfather's death in October 1422.
13 John, duke of Bedford, acted as regent for Henry VI in his French kingdom.
page 106 note a MS vicecomitati
page 106 note b Neither the Latin nor the sense of the sentence which follows is clear
page 106 note c MS exequando
14 Valognes, Manche, arr. Cherbourg.
15 Cherbourg, Manche.
page 107 note a MS se
page 107 note b et interlined
16 This was a jugé of the Requêtes de l'Hotel du Roi.
17 Jean Aguenin was the second président of the Parlement.