Current practice with four-meter reflectors is reviewed and the good match with fine-grained photographic plates of high DQE is examined. The present designs of 15-meter-class telescopes appear to point to instruments with a large flat focal plane and an image scale in the 5 arc sec/mm range. This requires an emulsion of considerably larger microcrystal size than currently used. Extension of the present emulsion type to the required grain size is not likely to be efficient; however, the use of new emulsion technologies should offer the opportunity to devise appropriate photographic detectors for use with an f/6, 5 arc sec/mm telescope. A gain in detective quantum efficiency appears possible.