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37. John Nelson (Jackson) to Thomas More (9 November 1612) (AAW A XI, no. 197, pp. 565–7.)

Published online by Cambridge University Press:  13 October 2009

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Much reverenced & as much beloved Sir

In the last I receaved from yow I had newes of mr Hairsteins for the which I hartely thank yow and yow shall hear more thearof hearafter. I suppose the untymely death of owr yong prince wyll be come before thease. he died on the 6th of novembre in the evening. Thowgh the L. Sanchar died with great edification yet if the speech which is thear come abroad it will be very scandalous and much impayre the estimation of that holy sea and give our adversaries greater ground of their slanders of our canonizing of wilfull murderours & wicked men which aspersion they have cast upon us in their writings from tyme to tyme. yow know the state of an heret. cowntry & thearfore may with greater freedome lett them know the harme that ensues such blind zeall. His cheif & I may say soole helper was one of owrs, namely the party that hath written the late large letter to his hol. which I sent yow word of & I suppose yow have ere this receaved.

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References

981 In June 1612 Anthony Champney wrote to More that Jackson was enquiring after news of ‘a scotishe youthe called Hairestaynes’ [i.e. at Rome], AAW A XI, no. 100 (p. 283), perhaps the same as or related to Matthew Haistenes, a page of Anne of Denmark's chamber, CSPD 1603–10, 156Google Scholar. In a list of the queen's household in December 1612, this page was a receiver of mourning cloths for Prince Henry's funeral, PRO, LC2/416, fo. 26r, though this does not conclusively establish that he was present. He is not on an accounts list for the household drawn up in 1614, PRO, E 315/107, fo. 17v (for all which information I am very grateful to Helen Payne). John Jackson was at court for some of this period. His letters recite speeches made by James and Anne when he was present. On 1 March 1613 he noted Our q. did of late speak to the K. in behalfe of Cath. & he answered saucy, why will you speak for them that neyther love yow nor mee nor myne. but wold doe with us as they went about to doe in the powder treason', AAW A XII, no. 46 (p. 102). See also Letter 51. Helen Payne has suggested to me that Jackson might have been in the entourage of Lady Jane Drummond, first lady of Queen Anne's Bedchamber, a committed Catholic. As early as September 1611 Richard Smith reported (somewhat ambiguously) ‘there is a speech that our Queene [Anne] is reconciled and that by Mr Nelson [John Jackson]’ who ‘is in a good place to get intelligence’, AAW A X, no. 117 (p. 339). (The Spanish ambassador Alonso de Velasco noted in September 1611 that Mass was being said for Anne by a Scottish priest who posed as a servant of Jane Drummond, Loomie, A.J., ‘King James I's Catholic Consort’, Huntingdon Library Quarterly 34 (1971), 303–16, at p. 308CrossRefGoogle Scholar, for which reference I am grateful to Helen Payne.) In July 1614 Champney noted that in Paris there was a priest ‘of the order of St. Iohn of Hierusaleme’ who had been in England ‘for these two yeares and more and haunted the court knowne to the kinge and sayd mass often before the queene and her mayd ladie Dromon’, though he had eventually been imprisoned in the Gatehouse and then exiled, AAW A XIII, no. 146 (p. 412). See Payne, H., ‘Aristocratic Women and the Jacobean Court 1603–1625’Google Scholar (forthcoming Ph. D. thesis, London).

982 Prince Henry.

983 See Letters 28, 29, 30.

984 Jackson may be referring here to the adverse publicity which greeted the secular priest and martyr Robert Drury's absolution of the murderer Humphrey Lloyd in the courtroom in which they were both convicted, A True Report of the Araignmmt, Tiyall, Conviction and Condemnation of…Robert Drewrie (1607)Google Scholar, sig. B4r–v.

985 Possibly Jackson's hostility to Sanquhair was coloured by knowledge of the rumours that Sanquhair had once been regarded as on good terms with SJ, CSPD 1601–3, 145.Google Scholar

986 Jackson refers to John Colleton who had recently written a long address to Pope Paul V, a nine-page letter, on the general purposes of the secular clergy's agency in Rome, AAW A XI, no. 137 (16 August 1612). In 1615 Colleton was at loggerheads with other priests in the Clink (where Jackson himself was imprisoned from December 1613) over what he regarded as their lax moral standards, TD V, pp. clxxvi–vii; Anstr. I, 186. See also Folger Shakespeare Library, MS V a 244.

987 Richard Smith.

988 George Birkhead.

989 Fulvio Pergamo of Asti.

990 Battista Gabaleone. See CSPV 1610–13, 427.Google Scholar

991 The Marchese di Villa, who finally arrived in England in April 1613, CSPV 1610–13, 531.Google Scholar

992 Cf. McClure, , 392Google Scholar, for Chamberlain's account that on 19 November 1612 James told the privy council ‘how litle was agreed shold be allowed the daughter of Savoy that way yf the match had gon forward’. Concerning the Savoyard marriage proposals (for Princess Mary to wed Prince Henry), Birkhead wrote to More on 5 November 1612 that ‘yf yt be concluded upon such conditions (in regard of religion) as they [‘the Agents of that prince’] do tell and utter to some our principall Lords heare, it is like to be basely don by the Savoian, and Little to our edification and Comfort, for they demaund no more preistes but one to be permitted unto her selfe and her retinue, wheras yt is said that his maiestie wold never have offered them so base an offer, but rather that she shold have had foure, 2 for her selfe, and 2 for her familie, insomuch as that our protestantes are much scandalized at such baseness, besides it is also given forth, that she shall both have masse, and goe to the kinges service also, which is a point worthie to be exclaymed against, for yt wilbe much to the hurt of poore catholiques that have so longe susteyned so many tribulations for not yeeldinge to such an absurditie’, AAW A XI, no. 195 (p. 561). Cf. Smith, , Life, I, 124–5.Google Scholar

993 Prince Henry.

991 Anne of Denmark.

995 Prince Charles, Duke of York.

996 Birkhead mentioned this proposal in his letter to More of 10 November 1612, and said also that the Savoyard ambassador had now learnt his lesson about too freely discussing the religious terms of prospective dynastic marriage alliances ‘and wilbe more cauteleuse hearafter’, AAW A XI, no. 201 (p. 577).

997 The words ‘milde & gende’ and ‘but of a very good witt’ are inserted above the line.

998 George Abbot.

999 Maurice, Landgrave of Hesse-Cassel. His daughter had been proposed as a bride for Prince Henry in June 1612, CSPV 1610–13, 383.Google Scholar

1000 Frederick V, Elector Palatine.

1001 Chamberlain thought the delay was simply a matter of decorum, McClure, 391.

1002 Cf. McClure, , 388–9Google Scholar; cf. Dowsnhire MSS III, 419.Google Scholar

1003 AAW A XI, no. 185 (20 October 1612), part printed in TD V, pp. cxvii–ix.

1004 See Letter 25.

1005 Thomas Worthington.

1006 Robert Pett reported on 3 November 1612 (NS) that the nuncio in Brussels ‘favoreth not our affayers’ by sending Caesar Clement and Robert Chambers as visitors to Douai, AAW A XI, no. 193 (p. 557).

1007 On 11 September 1612 (NS), shortly after arriving in Brussels, John Jackson had sent More a long memorandum about SJ's hold on Douai, and that the secular priest Robert Pilkington had said that Anthony Hoskins SJ had procured the nuncio at Brussels, Guido Bentivoglio, to ‘write to the doctors of doway forbidding them to dispute’ on theological issues ‘in controversy between the Ies. & Dominicans, (which they toke not well because he forbad not the Ies. to doe the like)’ and the nuncio sent to the college a copy of the papal breve concerning English Catholic clergy proceeding to the degree of doctor. Even Worthington was thrown into turmoil by this, AAW A XI, no. 147 (p. 403).

1008 In a letter of November 1611 Jackson had asked More to remembre my love’ to Nicholas Fitzherbert ‘whom I much honor & hold my selfe indebted to particulerly for his kindnes to me when I was thear [at the English College in Rome between 1592 and 1597]; thowgh perhaps he have now forgot me’, AAW A X, no. 145 (p. 409).