“What's this, Sombra?”

“You are close to your father's land, Fierro. This is Mexico.”

“Who are those people?”

“They follow Emiliano Zapata. Had you been born close to your father's land you are likely to have been fighting on their side, Fierro!”

“Not on Pancho Villa's side, Sombra?”

“No, Villa supporters are in the North of Mexico.”

“You name your horse after the horse of Felipe Ángeles, who joined Pancho Villa. Would we have been enemies, Sombra?”

“Only uneasy allies, Fierro.”

“What goes on here?”

“It's been going on for a long time. Perhaps even before the Spanish arrived, Fierro.”

“But why do we now have people that look like brothers fighting each other, Sombra?”

“The story is as old as mankind. They fight for power, Fierro, and neither Villa nor Zapata will win, despite being the peoples’ most loved autochthonous leaders. Nor will their most prepared acolyte, Felipe Ángeles, win,.”

“Who is that one leading a cannon bombardment, Fierro?”

“That's my man, Ángeles.”

“Yours for any particular reason, Sombra?”

“Perhaps because I believe he was honest, educated, loyal and sought the best for all; not much more than that.”

“Was he good with the facón, Sombra?”

“I don't think so. He was too good with cannons to bother with the facón, Fierro.”

“All men are brave when standing alongside a cannon, Sombra! What I am asking is, did this Ángeles know when to hold his ground?”

“I think he did, Fierro. He was a studied professional military man. He studied artillery at a French military academy, thus his penchant for naming his horses with the names of French generals.”

“You are telling me nothing I want to know, Sombra! What evidence do you have that this man held his ground?”

“He risked his life in supporting President Madero.”

“Well, we are getting closer now, Sombra. Why did he choose to side with Madero instead of with Madero's enemies?”

“Because Ángeles was a loyal military man, Fierro. President Madero was the constitutional president, and Ángeles could not see himself siding with those who wanted to illegally topple Madero.”

“Did Ángeles stand to lose everything— his life, his family, his possessions— and still back Madero?”

“Yes, Fierro, that's Ángeles in a nutshell. Huerta toppled Madero and had him killed.